Yeah, maybe enlightenment is what i feel is happening to me.
I have started to have more of a Hindu outlook. Karma, immortality of the soul, and things of this nature.
But that is a discussion for another time.
right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.
when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.
i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.
Yeah, maybe enlightenment is what i feel is happening to me.
I have started to have more of a Hindu outlook. Karma, immortality of the soul, and things of this nature.
But that is a discussion for another time.
right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.
when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.
i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.
Right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be Angry, Sad, Upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.
But the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.
I think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism. When i go to the meetings or take part in any other WT related activity, i don't care. I just really couldn't care less.
I mean, i do CARE, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing. It actually does interest me, the ins and outs of the Cult. The mind control. The Thought Control. The Blind Obedience. But i just don't care that i was once fully part of it.
Is this normal? I've been thinking maybe it's depression? Maybe it's relief that the world isn't going to come to a destructive end in my life time (i hope).
Maybe I've always felt this way, but never really analysed my feelings properly.
Just looking for anyone out there who feels the same?...
did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???
?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.
after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.
I remember studying 1914 in depth with the WT publications, and the numbers didn't add up.
I'm not bad at maths in reality, but this knocked my confidance as i thought i might not be as clever as i thought i was.
It always used to confuse me how some people could just real it all off, but i could get my head around it.
Now i know it's because it doesn't make sense, and the numbers do not check out. You can't make 2+2=5.
I believed 144,000 being a literal number. I believed in Armageddon, but didn't think i would survive. And i worked out that if i didn't survive, then probably only 90% wouldn't survive either.
I think i believed pretty much every thing i was told by the WT 100%
I'm just glad i have an inquisitive mind, and had the guts to check out the internet.
while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?
i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?
or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?
I think one of them will have a bit of an awakening at some point.
I think Sanderson will go one of two ways. Full on Cult leader, or defect. He's still young enough to somewhat survive on the outside. If he wrote a book, or sold his story to a large newspaper, he would recieve a modest amount to live on.
I also think if any of them were to defect, they would have to do it in the public realm in a talk at the AGM or something, so EVERYONE would have to know.
the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.
here is the ruling:.
http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.
a magician can demonstrate an empty hat from which, seconds later, he pulls a rabbit.
a rabbit in that empty hat?
in pre-enlightenment times, the easy answer was: magic was real--but--it was accomplished.
Great post Terry.
I am still in, but carefully untangling myself from this destructive cult.
so i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.
where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.
jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.
Cofty: Your making the assumption that the GB is in charge.
There are intelligent lawyers and accountants at the helm of this religion, and atheist i might add, all of which know exactly what they are doing.
so i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.
where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.
jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.
I think as the years role on, more and more people are going to have the 2034 brainwave, and because it has been addressed in the magazines, it will make it OK to speculate. Everyone speculates the s**t out of the Noah story now anyway.
so i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.
where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.
jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.
There is some very clever people in charge of WTS, they don't need any input from us really.
2034 fits in nicely with the overlapping generation as well. It's about as far as you push it before you have to reevaluate.
They will hint highly at 2034, but i doubt they will ever actually specifically say the date. Then just blame the sheeple for getting over zealous.
edit - "the days of noah" damn!.
long story short - i need to go to bed!
i was in edinburgh today with my wife (football, coffee, walks, food, cinema) and i always try to take 10 minutes to have a chat with the jws on the trolley in the "big city".. i challenged an older guy who turned out to be an pioneer about the generation.
After 2034 comes and go's, then will be the time for a 1914 date change.
"whats that, destruction of Jerusalem happened in 587 and not 607? 1914 must be changed to 1934!!"
And this takes you to 2054 for a new end date.
1934 is a very convenient date:
Hitler becomes Fuhrer
USSR joins league of nations.
You can almost read the script: "World conditions have been deteriorating fast ever since satan got kicked out of heaven in 1934!"